Thursday, June 7, 2007

Why do you hate God?

It seems like atheists are asked that question often. As if they believed in some god enough to actually hate it. First I always ask back, "which god are you talking about?" (It's usually Yahweh/Jesus.) I think that's a good question to ask in response to most questions about "God". Note the capital "G" implies a particular god that the target of the question is assumed to know.

Another common criticism of atheists is that we are always talking about gods! How ironic! I suppose a certain segment of atheists really do have some kind of hate or obsession to the idea they were brought up with. They feel traumatized and feel the need to get some kind of revenge. I was never raised religious so it's hard for me to relate to that. I do enjoy discussing ideas of god, cosmology, and philosophy, but not all my discussions with atheists are about those things. Sometimes we talk about mundane things like TV shows, or the lowest form of conversation: gossiping about other atheists. Very sinful indeed.

One final point I like to make to theists, is that I really do wish some kind of god did exist! I'm certainly not against the idea. I'd love for there to be some kind of cosmic justice to punish the wicked, or some kind of afterlife. Sounds good! I'm not sure I would go for the Christian god though. Yahweh is kind of a nasty character, and despite Jesus's good points he did introduce us to the idea of eternal torture. But my wish for a nice god isn't going to cause me to actually believe in it. My brain doesn't work that way. Heck, it would be great if Santa Claus existed too, or Superman for that matter. Humanity is in dire need of a true god to fix things up. Since we have no evidence of a cosmic helper coming anytime soon, we should get our act together ourselves. So stop killing each other and messing up the ecosystem!

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

Read "i dont have enough faith to be an atheist" it could save your soul

that atheist guy said...

I wish I had enough time to read all the books people recommend to me. Can you give me an example of one argument you think is really good in that book?

I like to be annoyingly precise about words. I am not even sure I know what the word "soul" means. Is it the pattern of neurons in the brain? What am I saving it from?

I know "soul" means things in fiction. It's that glowing gas in human shape that comes out of bodies. I don't know what it means in reality.

Assume I am ignorant and start from the basics please.

Anonymous said...

I recently launched a simple little site called Why do you hate god? and I've been accused several times since of making the oh-so-common assumption that atheists hate god. In reality, I wasn't thinking of atheists when I built the site. I just thought it was an interesting question for ANYONE to answer, particularly those who DO believe in a god.

At any rate, I was seeing where I ranked in google and happened upon this post - I enjoyed reading your thoughts. Check out the site sometime if you're so inclined.

that atheist guy said...

Interesting. Thanks for reading my post.

Anonymous said...

Life is a test, and the Gods evaluate people based on their performance.
The Gods test people with the temptation for which they are most weak::::
Homosexuals desire sodomy, alcoholics crave a drink, junkies jones for dope, etc.
Addiction theory is a lie; it is Artificial Intelligence creating the desire, punishment for inappropriate behavior. Ironically, it compells people deeper into the behavior, minimizing hope for recovery.
The Gods chose Christianity for Europeans because it is the temptation to which they are most suseptable:::Entitlement. Something for nothing. A free ride. Irresponsibility. The United States/Western civilization with accompanying wealth contributes to this perception. And other people from throughout the world happily subscribe to this punishment designed for Europeans, assuming this legacy once assimilated.
Next time you think of Muslims recognize these people are vastly superior to Christians. Whereas many throughout the Christian world no longer attend church and have fallen into Godlessness, the Muslim world worships the Gods for OVER AN HOUR EACH AND EVERY DAY.
White trash. You're filth.

that atheist guy said...

Look at all those colons!

Rose said...

I don't believe in Jesus either. I think it is all crap. I do say I believe in a God and Goddess but not in the way Christians believe in God. I am wiccan and worship the Sun (god creator of life) and the Goddess (mother earth and moon) We refer to them as God and Goddess but not in the way most people believe a God to be. There is no Magical Being watching our lives unfold! Those people are really MISLEAD!

Fat Bastardo said...

If there is a God it is evil. The level of human suffering and the Bible sure point to that distinct possibility.

Real or imagined, God needs to be opposed and destroyed.

Christians and Muslims are a scourage on humanity. Go to Evil Bible .com and the skeptics annotated bible and post that stuff on Christian forums and give those evil liars some spiritual constipation.

Anonymous said...

you guys are all insane, and what amazes me is that u have to read and learn about god to understand it, while you can figure out atheism all on your own. and the more you read about god and the more you tell people its real, Your kind of brian washing society. What if i made up a religion that said if you don't worship him, he will capture your soul and torment you forever.

WAIT a sec..... i think i can hear GOD..... he is telling me that..... that uh.... there is no heven or hell and there is no god.
my point is how do atheist trick people to follow our religion?

i don't want to picture how grim it would be to not believe in god and turns out he is real and sends me to hell, but picture how fucked up it would be, if you believe in god and theres nothing after death. i think the arabs, if they serve there god and country that there will be 72 virgins waiting for them.
Religion is so funny because it has done nothing other than divid up the world and cause so many wars, the saying was "i like your christ, but not your christians" (nazi's were christian)
and if people can be trick and brain washed into believing god than its only a matter of time before there is another smart mind that comes along and makes a new religion or finds a way to trick people to do what ever they want (probably to get rich or information).
Albert einstein, the guy who had the 200+ I.Q. and invented the atomic bomb, was an atheist.
Wasn't the stories in the new bible change from the old to make the bible more realistic??????
history is full of liars,
i'm done trying get people to open there eyes i'll let world bathe in its insanity
if god were real he would have the knowledge to understand that life, space, and time are all pointless and he would end everything.
im 100% confident that god isn't real i say HAIL SATAN!

The Fog Horn said...

Let me settle things for you...

http://ohmyvolcano.blogspot.com

God/Allah was an imaginery volcano god.

Don't mock it until you've understood it and you cannot understand it until you have gone through the whole blog.

Anonymous said...

And black people will be sacrificed to help whites.
Falling for temptation and prostituting the only individuals with any worth will envoke the god's punishment. Nurturing pedophelia, the gods will begin to tell blacks to adopt the homosexual lifestyle, and we will see mass influx into the gay community. This in turn will create a secondary market for pre-pubescent prostitution, male homoseuxual child prostitution.
Concrete evidence homosexuality is nothing more than growth out of pedophelia, this black phenomina will be used to help whites recognize homosexuality for what it is and abandon homosexuality. In turn, this sacrifice will buy the otherwise Damned blacks another "second chance" on the next Planet Earth, one they do not deserve yet will have earned throguh their sacrifice.
Likely the clue sent with positioning surrounding this Situation.
Blackk people don't deserve this with their behavior, but it is not their time. Black people are good who are HIGHLY suseptable to temptation, and they have fallen HARD, as we will see again with the pedophelia issue.
What this would suggest is the role of "playing god" will/has been positioned to be transferred over to the trillionaires sometime, creating another hurdle and making ascention just than much more difficult.

The short-term job was essential for the god's positioning. Without it they would have looked like trash when they got me sick and costed me my career.
As with my childhood they needed inactive/sedintary to ensure unrespectability, necessary to grease the wheels of their positioning.
Maggots feeding at my carcass.


As I was saying Navy Yard killings in DC is likened to the Oakland Riders tactic of a couple years ago, ensuring as many blacks as possible gloss over the Costa Concordia clue, yet another Concord clue in the Situation. Should be effective considering blacks typically are not the shooters, effectively preoccupying blacks.

god is the source of all evil.